Updated: Save Me From Myself

"Tripper" (tripe46) 06/24/2020 at 11:50 • Filed to: None

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Update: I actually made a run an it! FLIPPINGTHEFUCKOUT in my little 12x12 workshop yesterday afternoon thinking I was going to take it home.

All of the low bidders bowed out and I was prepared for up to two what I call “ real bidders” which are just people who don’t bid until the final seconds because it’s kinda dumb to bid any earlier (although I’m plenty guilty of doing this ). These are also bidders who have “real bid” history. If it’s someone’s first crack at BaT or they have just cast out low bids here and there... they won’t go very deep.

Only one stepped in! “This is my car buddy, I’m way dumber than you”, I thought. Then I read the bidders username and did a quick googly cyberstalk...” FRICK it’s a dealer”, I muttered to my wife who had joined in for the last minute excitement . Doubt crept in and I stopped suddenly . I didn’t feel ANY of that with the last one and it was a few more thousand miles an an ocean further away.

That guy could have and probably would have bid me well into the teens (still a deal on a rust free running roundie) but BaT takes 10% from the buyer, I pay another 6% to the state of PA and then I’d have to truck it home which we can easily call 3-4k ....That car is slow anyway w a trash paint job:)  

I Popped a beer and walked out back to join my wife and kiddo in the garden. Got an un solicited hug and kiss from my kiddo and life is grand.

Side note: A few nights ago I blindly popped a whole fortune cookie in my mouth (weird right? I have never done this) . I was waiting to pull out the fortune...THERE WAS NO FORTUNE!!!! The google says it’s good luck so I thought I’d win that car for REAL cheap lol. Obviously I didn’t but  this morning I got a reply from someone I have been buying parts for the E46 from. He said he was dumping a bunch of “vintage” parts. I said “got any 02' door cards?” He said, “No, but I have a whole car!” I’m going to keep the deets private for now, but maybe an update after the 4th...

Linkitylink

Car: *exists

Me: “hey there fella, I like the cut of your jib”

Car: *continues existing

Me: “I can take ya home, park ya next to the green machine and it will be like Christmas every day! And we can drive and laugh and drive till your tires are spent! Then well get NEW TIRES!”

Car: *still existing, motionless

Me: “Seems like you like the sound of that!!!”

For Sweden > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 11:49

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Easy.  You should buy from Cars & Bids, not Bring a Trailer.

Beefchips > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 11:58

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See ms more like you want us to tell you to go ahead and buy it. 

Tripper > For Sweden 06/17/2020 at 11:59

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Hah I have been keeping an eye on there too. I can only pretend that this will go cheap enough for 5.5 more days.

Tripper > Beefchips 06/17/2020 at 12:00

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I don’t need any more of that, but I’ll take it if you got it!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 12:09

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You buy that, and I’ll take good care of the 02 for you. =)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 12:11

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Also, buy this. No reserve!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2008-bmw-m3-96/

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 12:39

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That is very good! I even autox my cars with the number 4....

shop-teacher > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 12:40

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Lol!

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 12:41

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I absolutely adore that as is and I generally despise red cars.

I’d put real seats in it and a classy AF wood wheel and drive the fuck out it. 

DasWauto > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 13:16

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If you’re looking to be dissuaded, you’re asking in the wrong place. We are enablers, not voices of reason.

Tripper > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/17/2020 at 13:31

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Wow that is interesting...what do you think a rebuild might cost on a S65 might cost.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 13:56

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Not sure, but the rod bearings & throttle actuators - two common points of failure - have already been addressed.

Interested to see where this ends up.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 13:58

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If the clutch has never been replaced, it surely needs a new one (and the ‘08s need the flywheel replaced as well - they redesigned it ).

Cash Rewards > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 13:58

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The number matches "the owner's coffee-focused lifestyle brand". What the fuck?

Tripper > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/17/2020 at 13:59

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5.5 hours north from me, so hopfully in my driveway?

Tripper > Cash Rewards 06/17/2020 at 14:01

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Yeah lol plenty of comments about that already. Guy can get the fuck out of here with that.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 14:03

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Haha! They would look good lined up - yellow, green, blue...

But seriously, don’t take advice from me! LOL

Tripper > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/17/2020 at 14:05

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Just about any 3 pedal e chassis in a color is my heroin.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 14:10

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Ha! Don’t test your wife’s good will. =)

Longtime Lurker > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 14:37

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Have fun playing musical cars with your lack of garage space.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Tripper 06/17/2020 at 15:55

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Nice Price at the current bid of USD $3,850... even with the non-functional A/C.

But you just know that it’s gonna sell for much more than that.

Tripper > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 06/17/2020 at 17:42

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Sure will, but this is a similar beginning to the auction where I bought my first 02, and at least this car is in my home country.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Tripper 06/18/2020 at 03:45

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buy it

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/18/2020 at 16:51

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Sold at $17.5k + fees.

Tripper > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:05

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out, but not a bad price all things considered

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/18/2020 at 17:33

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I thought so!

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 11:58

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I wanted that car and almost made an account and put money on it. But I’m not really ready for classic car ownership. I have decided I want one of these when I can realistically have a classic in my stable.

$10,800, plus fees, taxes, and shipping to OH puts that one over my wallet’s pain threshold.

Just Jeepin' > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 11:59

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So I can’t tell from your update: did you get it?

(Sorry, I’m an old fart with a  limited modern vocabulary.)

Tripper > Just Jeepin' 06/24/2020 at 12:01

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Nah I dropped out when I realized I was bidding against a dealer. I had a little more to go but that just took all the wind out of my sales. I dont know why.

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 12:01

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So what do we think it’ll be reposted for in a month?  $30k in SoCal?

Tripper > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 06/24/2020 at 12:03

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Yeah the add ons really hurt if for regular guys like us. With the 1502 I was able to skate out of the BaT fee because the auction didn’t meet reserve. The seller and I made a side deal. It was a wash because it was twice as expensive to ship, but still nice.

Tripper > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 06/24/2020 at 12:04

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If it’s repainted the original T ampico, absolutely. 

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 12:12

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What are some good resources for these? I like the boxy styling of that 68 as compared to the more angled nose of the later models. I think I saw a 72 somewhere else online that is a runner but has loads of body issues.

Do you know of any other sites that would sell these and places that would be good to import them through?

I also should probably try to arrange a drive in one at some point seeing as I've never done that. I would hate to go through the whole process of getting one only to find I hate it.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 12:39

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Does BaT not have autobid? You know, set your max bid and it will automatically increase the bid by the increment you set.

Tripper > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 06/24/2020 at 12:58

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https://www.bmw2002faq.com/

68'-73' Round tail (more expensive)

74'-76' square tail

You want a body that is in good shape as a hard #1 with chassis as a close second, unless you’re a skilled metal worker. The mechanicals are so sim ple I almost/do get happy tears when I look underneath/in the bay. Interior and rubber bits from BMW are the most expensive things.

Facebook marketplace is ok, craigslist is bad, the 2002 forum is good but the format isn’t. Also and here me out here BaT, contrary to popular belief is good! You can get a good deal! Particularly on 2002's because they is always at least one for sale. Big money guys HATE the ones even with small issues. Foreign location /no reserve cars are where it’s at.

“I also should probably try to arrange a drive in one at some point seeing as I’ve never done that. I would hate to go through the whole process of getting one only to find I hate it.”

Sure I guess that is a possibility, but that might be tough to arrange. Here is what I can tell you about the dri ve and experience. I have owned a bunch of cool/fast cars (wrx, wrx sti, E90m3, e46 m3, audi s3). I have been lucky enough to have wheel time behind almost ever E chassis BMW and I have driven counteless exotics via being a dickhead kid working as a valet. I wheeled some guys 360 to the gas station and back...It SCREAMS just an unbelievable noise. All eyes are on you if you like that sort of thing but its kind of odd. S ome in awe, some scoffing obviously thinking nasty things. Here I am a 19 year old valet just wheeling someone elses car...

None of that touches the feeling of whipping that little Bimmer around. The car is just pleased as punch to be driven. Every part of the drive you can feel, touch, smell, and taste. I can flick it into a turn and just put my damn ed foot through the floor. It’s so easy to get it way out and get it right back. I’ve driven other vintage cars MG/Triumph/Austin Heale y. They’re old and cool but “Sunday Drivers”. I’ve DDed mine for months at a time. I get the same amount of attention that I described with the Ferrari, but its all love. People yelling “FUCK YEAH” out of every sort of cars window from every walk of life. The 2002 community is unbelievably generous. I have had other owners invite me out to their shop over a simple facebook post! I’ve gone and now were friends!

Obviously biased here, and my car is far from stock enhancing the experience. Still I highly recommend them to anyone looking to step into a vintage car or to anyone who just wants to feel real good when they drive , haha.

Tripper > TheRealBicycleBuck 06/24/2020 at 13:03

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Um that would require me to know my max before bidding...

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 13:10

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Awesome.

My current daily, a 16 GTI SE 6MT with the Performance package is admittedly perfectly fine for a daily. But that’s part of the problem. It’s only just fine. Sure it’s amazingly capable, but only gets exciting at speeds that I would get arrested for. So it feels to me like it simply exists. It’s fun, but only when breaking the law or on a track. It’s fast, but not fast enough to be scary. So either I need loads more power or much less.

I love the classic three-box styling of these and that they aren’t fast. I want to be able to drive like my pants are filled with insects as often as possible and I can’t do that with my GTI.

And these strike me as approachable for ownership and personalization. Whereas classic Porsches are out of my budget and even if I could get one, I’d have to worry about all the purists getting angry for driving it  wrong, or on a day ending in Y, etc. 

Tripper > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 06/24/2020 at 13:19

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Yea it’s crazy you can’t really drive anything new, hard without asking for trouble. Absolutely slow car fast adds to the fun. The 02 community has the snotty purists too, you’ll see arguments about the “snorkel” on the Tii’s that will go on for pages... However those guys keep the driver level cars attainable. I have met dozens of owners since I got mine and I have only met one or two with concourse quality cars. They’re all the same, it’s just another perfect factory example in their perfect little collection. Everybody else will invite you over for beer to see what parts yall can trade.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 13:41

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Yeah, you know, the maximum amount of money you can spend before your wife files for divorce, or perhaps the amount sitting in the checking account that you can’t exceed without getting a loan. Maybe it’s the maximum you’re willing to pay for a particular item.

On eBay, I’ll find an item that has a buy it now price that I think is fair, then set my max bid on another auction for the same item  about 10% lower than that.

Tripper > TheRealBicycleBuck 06/24/2020 at 14:46

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For small things that works but for cars its all in the moment for me. After each bid I ask myself, “How do you feel about xyz car for the price you just bid?” When the answer is somewhere in between “ I’m not sure” , and “bad” I stop .

The answer can quickly change though . I was ready to bid to 13 against a bidder or two. The problem is once you get there you (I) tend to keep going. I was pretty sure he would push me over that by a good measure, where as two seconds earlier I was pretty sure whoever else showed up wouldn’t even make me go that high. So my 13 became 10550. Annnd I’m looking at other cars

TheRealBicycleBuck > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 15:04

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My budget doesn’t let me do that. It’s more about what I can afford all-in. An extra grand or two? Nope. I set a number that is a hard stop.

Tripper > TheRealBicycleBuck 06/24/2020 at 15:36

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Mine doesn’t either but that extra 1-2k you speak of I will hustle up real quick, or buffer with a credit card if I have to . I also re-confirm my wife’s comfort level every $2500 or so .

When I agreed to buy the 1502, I had no shipping company, no customs plans, and I didn’t want to part with any cash as we were in the middle of an addition on our house and ya never know...So I took out a personal loan...should have seen the guys face when I told him I was just going to wire it to a stranger on the internet. Then I billed ALL of my side clients at once, haha. I sold a bike, a gun, some old tools, and worked a few weekends of valet during the holidays to pay for shipping, customs, tax, registration blahblahblah. Then I put a silly amount into it when it arrived which I slapped on a 0% interest credit card haha. Then I sold the Grom and made a lucky investment in fish oil to cover that cost over a few weeks.

the butts in my pants never wear out because I’ m always flying by them.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 15:45

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Does it automatically adjust the high bid in relation to one’s BAC?

TheRealBicycleBuck > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 15:59

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Our tolerance for risk is very different! I plan for months or even years before I make the leap on a big purchase. The one exception was our house. I had a weekend to make a decision or I was going to end up renting. This was after Katrina and the housing market was extremely tight.

E90M3 > Tripper 06/24/2020 at 16:53

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What would you’ve done with a third to car? 

B_dol > Tripper 06/25/2020 at 13:10

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This has been me way too often recently on a BaT (and off). Was about a moments notice away from wiring funds for two separate Z3 coupes (non-M) and a Z3M Coupe track car... cooler heads prevailed for now.